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Player Missing Cards During Hand
#1
Greetings,

We were playing 4-player, double deck.  The deal was correct.   My partner took the bid.   During the hand, one of our opponents discovered he was missing two cards.  Apparently, he had put his cards down and when he picked them back up, did not retrieve them all and got them mixed up with the tricks taken in.  What happens?

Being a friendly game, we wound up throwing in the hand and re-dealing.  However, I thought our hand should have counted.
Should this have been treated like a renege?

Brian
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#2
(04-29-2017, 08:49 AM)BrianTB2 Wrote:  Greetings,

We were playing 4-player, double deck.  The deal was correct.   My partner took the bid.   During the hand, one of our opponents discovered he was missing two cards.  Apparently, he had put his cards down and when he picked them back up, did not retrieve them all and got them mixed up with the tricks taken in.  What happens?

Being a friendly game, we wound up throwing in the hand and re-dealing.  However, I thought our hand should have counted.
Should this have been treated like a renege?

Brian

Most definitely a renege -- and if this is a friendly game you should definitely harass your friend!   Big Grin
It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing all your life. -- Mickey Mantle
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#3
In a friendly game, take the friendly route. I presume it could not be easily established which 2 cards were mislaid, or at what time. So it's highly likely that a technical renege has occured. Also note, checking the various rules sites, a misdeal is considered a renege. That's ludicrous for a friendly game, IMO.

My problem is, the renege rule is obscenely punitive for a friendly game. It's excessive for a cash game, where cheating now has an incentive. So I'd argue for something lesser.

--If the declaring side reneges, they go set their bid.
--The non-offending side scores their meld + 50 points, as if they'd taken all the tricks.

I think this is much closer to equitable.
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