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Has anyone watched these videos?
#1
http://www.ehow.com/videos-on_4484_play-...ional.html

I haven't had the time to look at the whole set up, but I'm wondering if it is a decent start for a complete newbie?
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#2
I've seen some of them. Better than nothing, I suppose, but IMO too unstructured and WAY too simplistic for anything but the most absolutely basic. Can't be otherwise, tho; the whole series is only about 35 minutes of presentation, looks like...most are 1 to 1.5 minutes. From what I've seen, about the most anyone could get out of these is procedural stuff.
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#3
These vids are for the complete beginner. They cover the basics but that's what they're dupposed to cover.

(01-28-2013, 06:13 PM)ToreadorElder Wrote:  I've seen some of them. Better than nothing, I suppose, but IMO too unstructured and WAY too simplistic for anything but the most absolutely basic. Can't be otherwise, tho; the whole series is only about 35 minutes of presentation, looks like...most are 1 to 1.5 minutes. From what I've seen, about the most anyone could get out of these is procedural stuff.
Rick Hall
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#4
Agreed; my problem, tho, is I MUCH prefer, even with a beginner, to develop principles, once you're past the basics of meld counting, bidding mechanics, and points. This doesn't do that. Plus, it's 'promoted' as making you an 'expert.' NOT.

Plus, on several occasions, he goes "oh this is a really good hand" when it has considerable meld. An aceless hand with a triple pinochle is not a 'good' hand...it's just a hand with a lot of meld. This might sound like nit-picking, but IMO it's not. It's getting players to think in a constructive way. and proper selection of verbiage is essential to build that.
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#5
So....not perfect but not bad for the complete beginner, if they like videos better than reading?
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#6
If "they like videos better than reading" then get them a good book on the subject.
A video may be presented in a friendly fashion, but time-wise reading is much more efficient.

People may walk away from a video feeling satisfied in a way they would not get from reading a book. This is generally because the video covered very little materiel in along period of time.
Rick Hall
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(02-01-2013, 11:40 AM)richardpaulhall Wrote:  If "they like videos better than reading" then get them a good book on the subject.
A video may be presented in a friendly fashion, but time-wise reading is much more efficient.

People may walk away from a video feeling satisfied in a way they would not get from reading a book. This is generally because the video covered very little materiel in along period of time.

Agree 100%. Reading is the best. I'm attempting to create a free book on the subject. I'm counting on good input from the community here when it is finished.
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#8
(01-28-2013, 03:19 PM)rakbeater Wrote:  http://www.ehow.com/videos-on_4484_play-...ional.html

I haven't had the time to look at the whole set up, but I'm wondering if it is a decent start for a complete newbie?

no he never spoke of what I really wanted to know
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#9
I should probably delete this thread. I don't think the videos are worth very much.
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#10
No, don't delete the thread. The conclusion that the videos aren't very good, is worth saving.
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