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Someone recently mentioned to me that they got "double nuts" in a Pinochle game. This is more Pinochle jargon, apparently. I had to ask what he meant, and he said it means double pinochles. He said if you have a single pinochle you might say you have "nuts".

Has anyone else heard this jargon used before? If so, I vote it should be added to the glossary.

I see that you've got "Double Bidder Out" in the glossary... I wonder if it would be worth adding a description of the "Bidder Out" rule there too.
(11-07-2015, 05:53 PM)marya Wrote: [ -> ]Someone recently mentioned to me that they got "double nuts" in a Pinochle game. This is more Pinochle jargon, apparently. I had to ask what he meant, and he said it means double pinochles. He said if you have a single pinochle you might say you have "nuts".

Has anyone else heard this jargon used before? If so, I vote it should be added to the glossary.

I see that you've got "Double Bidder Out" in the glossary... I wonder if it would be worth adding a description of the "Bidder Out" rule there too.

I'd never heard of "nuts".
I suppose this could be like all of the slang terms that Eskimos have for snow, or the names that American's have for money.
The greater the relevance of a thing, the more names we will invent to describe it.
If you have more evidence that this is a popular term as opposed to just a transient utterance, we can certainly add it to the glossary.
Without requiring some level of minimum popularity, I fear the glossary would be over-saturated with seldom used terms.

I am still looking forward to finding some resolution with the Bidder Out Rule Change Discussion.
(11-10-2015, 07:22 AM)mickmackusa Wrote: [ -> ]If you have more evidence that this is a popular term as opposed to just a transient utterance, we can certainly add it to the glossary.
I am still looking forward to finding some resolution with the Bidder Out Rule Change Discussion.

I don't have evidence, just the claim of a person who plays at World of Card Games. I was hoping for evidence from the group here... let's see if anyone confirms/denies.

FWIW I have added "Bidder Out" as the default option at World of Card Games. Players can change the option if they feel strongly about it, and play a game the other way. However, the option gives the bidding team the win when both scores are at 500 or above. It does not go so far as to assume that you must be the bidder to win. I'm not really very keen on that suggested rule. I'm not a long-time pinochle player, though, so it's hard for me to say just what kind of impact it would have on the game, except that it might prolong it for several hands. Not necessarily a bad thing, unless you don't have the time!
(11-10-2015, 08:41 AM)marya Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2015, 07:22 AM)mickmackusa Wrote: [ -> ]If you have more evidence that this is a popular term as opposed to just a transient utterance, we can certainly add it to the glossary.
I am still looking forward to finding some resolution with the Bidder Out Rule Change Discussion.

I don't have evidence, just the claim of a person who plays at World of Card Games. I was hoping for evidence from the group here... let's see if anyone confirms/denies.

I shouldn't have phrased it like it was your responsibility, sorry for that.  I should have said, if WE find more evidence of wide-spread use, then we will add it to the glossary.
Yes, let's see if anyone chimes in on this thread and states that they use the term.
I meant to chime in earlier but couldn't produce a cohesive sentence...

Anyway, I believe this might be a misconception of the phrase "double knucks," where "knuck" is short for "pinochle." I have heard this a few times, but not enough that I think it deserves to be eternally enshrined in the Power Pinochle Glossary. I have not heard the phrase "double nuts" at all until this post.
(11-11-2015, 07:42 PM)TigreLXIX Wrote: [ -> ]I meant to chime in earlier but couldn't produce a cohesive sentence...

Anyway, I believe this might be a misconception of the phrase "double knucks," where "knuck" is short for "pinochle."  I have heard this a few times, but not enough that I think it deserves to be eternally enshrined in the Power Pinochle Glossary.  I have not heard the phrase "double nuts" at all until this post.

These are my personal feelings as well.
It is likely to be purely a mispronunciation that has lingered on for a small pocket of players.
We are all likely to come across slight variations like:
  • Knucks
  • Nucks
  • Knux
  • Nux
  • Knocks
  • ...etc.
or something else that could be argued as a phonetic deviation that I just dreamed up this morning...

"Pein" (German for "Agony") source
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"Nächtle" (German for "Night", though I think "nächt" is more commonly used) source

I am sure other players have found an evening of Pinochle to be agonizing!
Thanks Tigre and Mick, that explanation about "double knucks" (double 'nochs?) makes sense...

Hilarious etymology for the name Pinochle, Mick Smile I'm supposed to be in a Pinochle tournament next Monday and I fully expect it to be agonizing, lol!
interesting. I've always heard it as and said double nuts without thinking about the origin. (just thought it was slang).
However, does sound like it's a corrupted version of double knucks, which I've never heard.
It doesn't rank glossary status but when with people that use it they will always say double (or triple) nuts, and never nuts.
Well, they will say nuts when they get a bad hand. Smile